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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Grassley Suspects ‘Deep State' Is Responsible For Delay In FISA Abuse Report
Very troubling, if Sen. Grassley is right.
[DailyCaller] Republican Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley expressed frustration Monday at a months long delay in the release of the Justice Department Inspector General’s report on possible FBI surveillance abuse against the Trump campaign, questioning whether the "deep state" has somehow slowed the release of the document.

"All of the delays and excuses why the Horowitz IG FISA report isn’t public yet after several months of anticipation of its issues leads me to the suspicion it’s going to be ’deep six’ by the deep state," Grassley wrote on Twitter.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/23/2019 10:15 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [208 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Gives the players time to lawyer up, don't you see.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 10/23/2019 11:55 Comments || Top||

#2  "Professional courtesy"

Loyalty to caste is greater than loyalty to country. So why should any deplorable die defending this state?
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/23/2019 13:03 Comments || Top||

#3  Grassley has been around so long, if he's not part of the Deep State, he's responsible for sitting on his hands while it developed...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/23/2019 15:22 Comments || Top||

#4 
No. We do not threaten American citizens.

— trailing wife for the moderators
at 9:40 p.m. EDT
Posted by: Fat Bob Javish1936 || 10/23/2019 21:28 Comments || Top||


California venture capitalist who donated $900,000 to Trump's inaugural committee pleads guilty to using illegal campaign contributions to influence high-power politicians while acting as a foreign agent
[Daily Mail, where America gets its news] Imaad Zuberi, 49, pleaded guilty in federal court in Los Angeles on Tuesday.
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/23/2019 08:50 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [224 views] Top|| File under: Moslem Colonists

#1  Been doing it for years, but they only publicize his actions this year. Note:

He is pictured with former Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, whose campaign he donated to in 2015 -- and --

Zuberi, a longtime political donor, has supported candidates from both parties in the past. He is seen with former President Barack Obama (left) and former Vice President Joe Biden (right). Not to mention -

Zuberi'sname surfaced in that investigation amid reports that Trump's former personal lawyer Michael Cohen was questioned by federal prosecutors about the donor.

I'm sure the US media will focus on this last tidbit.
Posted by: Bobby || 10/23/2019 9:42 Comments || Top||

#2  Shitshow, Part 147...
How unbelievably shitty are politics are... Shit money everywhere, shitty corrupt and stupid, clownishly incompetent pols... We need new parties and a new political class
Posted by: Lex || 10/23/2019 10:22 Comments || Top||

#3  *our politics
Posted by: Lex || 10/23/2019 10:23 Comments || Top||

#4  Misleading headline. He donated to Hillary and Obama. He likes to hedge his bets?
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/23/2019 10:32 Comments || Top||

#5  If you just want influence and you don't care who wins, you donate to both candidates. You hedge your bet. Trump donated to Bill Clinton.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/23/2019 10:48 Comments || Top||

#6  His Linked In claims he speaks Hindi and some Arabic, went to university in California. Mr. Wife says Imaad Zuberi is an Arabic name.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/23/2019 21:11 Comments || Top||

#7  This whole thing seems too covenient. Why wasn't Zuberi prosecuted under the Obama administration? Certainly Obama and Hillary knew about him early on. Why is this coming up now? I smell a rat or several.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/23/2019 23:08 Comments || Top||

#8  The claim here is that this guy donated to the Trump Inaugural Committee, not to the Trump Campaign.
If he gave to the Trump campaign that surely would have been mentioned.
Also it seems that he gave some campaign illegal contributions, to influence high power politicians. Who could that campaign and those politician be?
Who beside Trump was running for President?
Could it have been Jill Stein? Is there anyone else possible?
Posted by: Daniel || 10/23/2019 23:49 Comments || Top||


-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Gibsons file notice of appeal in case against Oberlin College
[CHRONICLET] Less than two weeks after their counterparts announced plans to appeal the verdict, attorneys for Gibson's Bakery and the Gibson family have filed their own notice of appeal in their multi-million dollar lawsuit against Oberlin College.

Both sides are now seeking to overturn rulings made during and after the six-week trial that capture national attention as it played out in Lorain County Common Pleas Court. The jury's original $44 million award to the Gibsons was the largest in a libel suit in Ohio history, though it was later reduced by Judge John Miraldi due to statutory limitations in Ohio law.

It is expected that the statutory damage caps will be a main focus of the appeal argument by Gibsons' attorneys. The appeals will be heard by the Ninth District Court of Appeals in Akron.

Gibsons and their attorneys are asking be reviewed include statutory caps on compensatory and punitive monetary damages under Ohio law as well as several rulings by Miraldi.

Posted by: Fred || 10/23/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [191 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Good. Keep up the skeer.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/23/2019 2:43 Comments || Top||


-Land of the Free
Giffords Begins Massive Push To Back Anti-Gun Candidates In 2020
[Bearing Arms] It’s not shocking to learn that Giffords is going to back anti-gun candidates for president in 2020. We expect that. We expect it kind of like we expect Shannon Watts to say something really, really stupid.

However, one might not expect the organization to start its push this early, especially when there are so many anti-gun candidates still fighting for the opportunity to represent the Democratic Party.

And yet, it is.
The gun control organization founded by gun violence survivor and former Congresswoman Gabby Giffords is sinking nearly $200,000 into digital ads starting Monday in three key Super Tuesday states: Minnesota, Texas, and Colorado.

The ads feature eight presidential candidates ‐ including top contenders like Biden, Warren, and Sanders ‐ speaking directly to camera about their plans to curb the gun violence epidemic in the country.

The short videos allow each candidate to speak personally about how gun violence has impacted their role as a public servant or shaped their policy-making process. They’ll run mostly on Facebook and YouTube.

"What we want to do via our Gun Safety President campaign is put these candidates directly in front of the gun safety voters and let them decide for themselves," Peter Ambler, the executive director of the organization, told VICE News. "Across the country at kitchen tables, people are talking about keeping their communities safe, keeping their kids safe, not impeachment."

In addition to Biden, Warren, and Sanders, there will be spots for Sens. Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Amy Klobuchar, South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg, and Beto O’Rourke.

However, a number of candidates are noticeable by their absence. Among them are Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, who has been accused of being a Russian asset by Hillary Clinton, and Julian Castro, who took issue with door to door gun confiscation.

Of course, both are polling lower than two percent in the polls, which might explain it. After all, Giffords may well opt not to back candidates who aren’t polling at least two percent, which would be fair. As it is, most of those at the lower end of the spectrum don’t have a hope in hell of winning even this far out, so why not focus on those polling better?
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/23/2019 01:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [243 views] Top|| File under:

#1  There's a gun show this weekend in Knoxville. I was considering whether to attend. This story convinced me to go.
Posted by: BrerRabbit || 10/23/2019 4:32 Comments || Top||

#2  Hopefully the Knoxville show is a bit different. The last show I went to in Atlanta could have been a casting call waiting room for 'Walking Dead' extras. I felt naked without a beard and some bits of camouflage clothing.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/23/2019 4:49 Comments || Top||

#3  Some like to dress in their finest outfits when in public...
Posted by: BrerRabbit || 10/23/2019 4:58 Comments || Top||

#4  Anti-gun candidates? That's a loser issue. Giffords must be full-blown Dems.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/23/2019 10:53 Comments || Top||

#5  The mayor and some on city council in Knoxville were trying to ban gun shows from "city property" in Knoxville. Ban. Can the city really own property? Its owned by the taxpayers.

I think the gun show this weekend is on privately-owned property, the Knoxville Expo Center on Clinton Hwy. I might go. Got a conflict on Sat.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/23/2019 11:12 Comments || Top||

#6  She ditched HER armed security team?
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/23/2019 14:05 Comments || Top||

#7  Giffy Gabbard. Gabby Gitmo. I sense brand confusion in the offing...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/23/2019 14:23 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Michelle Obama floated as savior of Democrats from radical left general election disaster
Legal Insurrection via Instapundit
TODAY. Both the New York Times and The New Yorker have articles about how centrist and establishment Democrats are apoplectic over what is happening in the Democratic Primaries.

Biden is fading, mentally and politically. He’s hanging on for dear life to a presumption coming into the primaries that he had what it takes, but he doesn’t. Bernie and Warren are viewed as gateway drugs to general election disaster. (For a brutal take down of Warren’s electoral chances from a progressive view, read Why Criticize Warren? in Current Affairs.)

The others in the race all have problems, from stone cold boring to non-starters. Kamala Harris is the biggest disappointment, there’s no there there.

And there’s one person they both note who could walk away with the nomination, but doesn’t appear to want it.

Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/23/2019 06:39 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [326 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Great idea - run yet another bitter, divisive former First Lady & left-wing broad, Dems - what could go wrong?
Posted by: Raj || 10/23/2019 7:13 Comments || Top||

#2  Trying the same thing over and over and expecting a different result each time. That's the definition of something, I vaguely remember...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/23/2019 7:46 Comments || Top||

#3  Think of the advantages Raj - could the Don overmaster the temptation to twit every time she opens her mouth?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/23/2019 7:48 Comments || Top||

#4  The lady loathes politicians and the common herd of voters. She deeply resented having to spend time with either when she was first lady. Hillary Clinton at least enjoyed being among politicians, poor dear.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/23/2019 8:23 Comments || Top||

#5  just as she is a beard for her 'husband,' as president (perish the thought) she would just be a beard for the deep state parasites who really want their power back
Posted by: Bob Grorong1136 || 10/23/2019 8:28 Comments || Top||

#6  Tough to come up with decent, viable candidates when you have a party full of fruits and nuts.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/23/2019 10:24 Comments || Top||

#7  Shitshow, Part 147.
Next act in The Shitshow: Oprah for POPRA POTUS
Posted by: Lex || 10/23/2019 10:45 Comments || Top||

#8  The Dems don't have anyone to run, she might be a surprise candidate. Soetero had some unusual proclivities. Maybe Joan Rivers was right, I dunno.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/23/2019 10:51 Comments || Top||

#9  The problem for the Dems is that the public has figured out that ISSUES matter. They knew that Trump was a boor but that didn't matter that much. What mattered was what he said he'd do, and has done.

The media and DNC, but I repeat my self, still think that it's all a matter of the pretty face ala JFK (the first one) that matters and that's just not that true anymore.

So what issues are the Dems running on that the people like????????????
Posted by: AlanC || 10/23/2019 12:39 Comments || Top||

#10  Living in the White House DOES NOT qualify you to be President.
Would you like to undergo brain surgery by someone who had been married to a brain surgeon for 8 years?
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 10/23/2019 12:45 Comments || Top||

#11  So what issues are the Dems running on that the people like?

Half the people and slightly less than half of the voters like some/all of:
1. OrangeMan Bad
2. OrangeMan Cad
3. GOP Bad
Posted by: Lex || 10/23/2019 13:04 Comments || Top||

#12  Wookie is better looking than Baraq but can she read from a teleprompter?
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/23/2019 13:44 Comments || Top||

#13  She has never actively campaigned. Hillary had some experience with that at least.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 10/23/2019 14:39 Comments || Top||

#14  Skeletons, closets... Pre-op trips to Denmark
Posted by: Lex || 10/23/2019 14:44 Comments || Top||

#15  Well, she could counter Mayor Pete as also being married to a gay guy.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 10/23/2019 15:28 Comments || Top||

#16  Our first trans Prez?
Posted by: charger || 10/23/2019 16:28 Comments || Top||

#17  R2D2! Change of plan, Let the wookie win!
Posted by: SR-71 || 10/23/2019 16:41 Comments || Top||


Black lawmakers condemn Trump's 'lynching' remarks
[The Hill] Black lawmakers on Capitol Hill slammed President Trump for an explosive tweet Tuesday that compared Democrats’ impeachment investigation to a "lynching," conjuring a dark chapter in the nation’s history targeting African Americans.

While Democrats widely condemned Trump’s language, it was personal and hurtful for members of the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC).
Who historically suffered at the hands of Democrats
House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) called Trump a "racist" who is "unfit to serve," while Rep. Bobby Rush (D-Ill.), a civil rights activist who founded a chapter of the Black Panthers in the 1960s, called on Trump to delete the offensive tweet.

"What the hell is wrong with you?" Rush tweeted. "Do you know how many people who look like me have been lynched, since the inception of this country, by people who look like you. Delete this tweet."

House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.), a former CBC chairman and the No. 3 Democrat in leadership, said he wants the full House to vote on a resolution condemning Trump’s lynching comments.

Related: RedState - Apparently Every Democrat In Existence Used The Term “Lynching” To Defend The Clintons
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/23/2019 00:23 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [299 views] Top|| File under:

#1  a dark chapter in the nation’s history targeting African Americans

Just "African Americans"? Not being sarcastic, really curious.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/23/2019 2:33 Comments || Top||

#2  Such an African-American day for social cohesion.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 10/23/2019 3:39 Comments || Top||

#3  If only white people can be racist, does it follow that only black people can be lynched?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/23/2019 4:03 Comments || Top||

#4  Simple projection. A parade of squirrels on a hot summer night in South Chicago. All of which will soon be prohibited from mention.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/23/2019 4:56 Comments || Top||

#5  Charles Lynch was a Virginia Quaker,[7]:23ff planter, and American Revolutionary who headed a county court in Virginia which imprisoned Loyalist supporters of the British for up to one year during the war. Although he lacked proper jurisdiction for detaining these persons, he claimed this right by arguing wartime necessity. Subsequently, he prevailed upon his friends in the Congress of the Confederation to pass a law that exonerated him and his associates from wrongdoing. He was concerned that he might face legal action from one or more of those he had imprisoned, notwithstanding the American Colonies had won the war. This action by the Congress provoked controversy, and it was in connection with this that the term "Lynch law", meaning the assumption of extrajudicial authority, came into common parlance in the United States. Lynch was not accused of racist bias. He acquitted blacks accused of murder on three separate occasions.[8][9] He was accused, however, of ethnic prejudice in his abuse of Welsh miners. - wiki
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/23/2019 7:48 Comments || Top||

#6  Interesting P2K. Never really followed up on the term's origin.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 10/23/2019 8:15 Comments || Top||

#7  prejudice in his abuse of Welsh miners.

Well, sure. They were the Deplorables of their day.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/23/2019 8:25 Comments || Top||

#8  Hang 'Em High
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/23/2019 8:31 Comments || Top||


#10  Hypocrisy matters to conservatives, but it doesn't matter to the left who simply judge if things make them feel good or bad. in this case the word lynching makes them feel bad and attacking Trump makes them feel good.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 10/23/2019 10:06 Comments || Top||

#11 
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/23/2019 10:32 Comments || Top||

#12  #7 prejudice in his abuse of Welsh miners.

Ah, so Biden has another connection as a lynching victim! Oh, wait, that was Neil Kinnock, my bad
Posted by: Frank G || 10/23/2019 10:44 Comments || Top||

#13  F--- off, grifters
Posted by: Lex || 10/23/2019 10:47 Comments || Top||

#14  Such remarks were O.K. by Dems back in 1998 when Slick Willie was being impeached for real crimes?
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/23/2019 10:47 Comments || Top||

#15  Considering the level of dudgeon, it's hard to believe the dems ever had an Attorney General named Lynch...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/23/2019 14:46 Comments || Top||

#16  Neil Kinnock was the Welsh Windbag, not a miner.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/23/2019 14:51 Comments || Top||

#17  The speech/bio Biden plagiarized was also about "his" Welsh mining grandfather, BP, IIRC
Posted by: Frank G || 10/23/2019 15:29 Comments || Top||

#18  Didnt he even notice that er copy paste stupidity?
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/23/2019 18:03 Comments || Top||


White House won’t renew New York Times, Washington Post subscriptions
He has the FBI, CIA, NSA, and more reporting to him directly. Why would he be interested in getting the same information after the leaks were filtered through the unedited fingers of hysterical but lyrical hacks?
[NYPOST] Team Trump said Tuesday it would not renew subscriptions to the New York Times

...which still proudly displays Walter Duranty's Pulitzer prize...

or the Washington Post, two papers whose coverage frequently angers the president, who claims they are "fake news."

Trump on Monday told Fox News’ Sean Hannity ‐ a fervent backer of the president ‐ that "we don’t even want it in the White House anymore," referring to the Times.

"We’re going to probably terminate that and the Washington Post," Trump said. "They’re fake."

White House spokeswoman Stephanie Grisham confirmed to Politico that "we won’t be renewing."

Earlier this year in an Oval Office interview with Times news hounds and the paper’s publisher, the president complained that he wasn’t treated fairly.

"Everybody thinks the New York Times treats me terribly. Washington Post also, but the New York Times even more so treats me unbelievably terribly," Trump said.

Posted by: Fred || 10/23/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [259 views] Top|| File under:

#1 
Posted by: Dron66046 || 10/23/2019 4:48 Comments || Top||

#2  😊😊😊😊😊
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/23/2019 4:52 Comments || Top||

#3  He has the FBI, CIA, NSA, and more reporting to him directly. Why would he be interested in getting the same information after the leaks were filtered through the unedited fingers of hysterical but lyrical hacks?

After 15 seasons of "The Apprentice', the search for interesting stage performers is difficult to shake.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/23/2019 5:08 Comments || Top||

#4  I had Bee....
Posted by: Frank G || 10/23/2019 5:09 Comments || Top||

#5  'claims'? It's well beyond established, self-evident truth.
Posted by: Raj || 10/23/2019 7:03 Comments || Top||

#6  They're turning to the Huffington Post.
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/23/2019 8:32 Comments || Top||

#7  Mr. President, can you see about removing CNN/MSNBC from the airports as well? Noise pollution.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/23/2019 10:45 Comments || Top||

#8  You only need one source for the daily talking points issued by the DNC. No need for redundancy.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/23/2019 13:22 Comments || Top||

#9  Love your GIF, Dron66046!
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/23/2019 21:31 Comments || Top||

#10  Love your GIF, Dron66046!

I dunno, tw. I think we should run it by Snopes first.

And yes, Bee was a perfectly reasonable choice.
Posted by: SteveS || 10/23/2019 21:40 Comments || Top||

#11  I think we should run it by Snopes first.

A fair hit, SteveS. Those poor people — they were fine so long as they were doing urban legends, but they just don’t have the mental bandwidth to handle anything more complex.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/23/2019 23:01 Comments || Top||

#12  TW - they're lib tools. Biased as hell.
Posted by: Frank G || 10/23/2019 23:08 Comments || Top||


US diplomat tells Congress aid to Ukraine was tied to Biden, 2016 probes
[NYPOST] The acting US ambassador to Ukraine testified that he was told that the release of US military aid to the country was dependent on Ukraine publicly vowing to investigate Joe Foreign Policy Whiz Kid Biden
...Old, boring, a plagiarist, fond of hair sniffing and grabbing the protruding parts of women, and not whatcha call brilliant...
and his son as well as the 2016 election, a new report said Tuesday.

Testimony from William Taylor contradicted President Trump’s denial that there was a quid pro quo and that he used the nearly $400 million as leverage for personal political gain, the Washington Post reported.

Taylor walked politicians through conversations he had with other US diplomats who were trying to obtain what one called the "deliverable" of Ukrainian help investigating Trump’s political rivals, according to an opening statement obtained by the paper.

Taylor said he spoke to Ambassador Gordon Sondland, the US envoy to the EU.

"During that phone call, Amb. Sondland told me that President Trump had told him that he wants President [Volodymyr] Zelensky to state publicly that Ukraine will investigate Burisma and alleged Ukrainian interference in the 2016 election," Taylor said in the statement.

"Amb. Sondland also told me that he now recognized that he had made a mistake by earlier telling the Ukrainian officials to whom he spoke that a White House meeting with President Zelensky was dependent on a public announcement of investigations ‐ in fact, Amb. Sondland said, ’everything’ was dependent on such an announcement, including security assistance," Taylor told House Sherlocks.

Posted by: Fred || 10/23/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [189 views] Top|| File under:

#1  During that phone call, Amb. Sondland told me
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/23/2019 3:02 Comments || Top||

#2  So, more second-hand bullshit
Posted by: Frank G || 10/23/2019 5:47 Comments || Top||

#3  Is quid pro quo in such circumstances against the law? I mean, if the president is concerned that an American citizen is involved in corrupt activities in a foreign country, wouldn't it be wise for the president to seek some assurance that vast amounts of money meant for legitimate military aid to the country will not be used to line the pockets of corrupt individuals?
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/23/2019 10:58 Comments || Top||

#4  ^ what Abu said. Like a Kinsley Gaffe.
Typical Shitshow.
Posted by: Lex || 10/23/2019 11:02 Comments || Top||

#5  House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy: GOP Destroyed Impeachment Witness William Taylor’s Testimony.

Also see:

Trump allies push back on ‘quid pro quo,’ say envoy testified Ukraine initially unaware of aid holdup.

Schifferbrains selectively leaking little tidbits to make Trump look bad but withholding exculpatory information, as is his modus operandi. There is nothing else he can do. Forget Thanksgiving. Forget Christmas. He'll drag this shitshow out until November 2020 while his MSM allies follow merrily along for maximum propaganda effect. But after that he will no longer be the Intelligence Committee chairman.

"Oh, we've really got him this time," is what they've been saying since January 2017 and even before then.

But they've got nothing except loud mouths and a pack of lies. There will be no impeachment. That was never even part of the plan.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/23/2019 13:39 Comments || Top||


Elizabeth Warren warns she may cut off US aid to Israel if elected
[BIZPACREVIEW] Did Sen. Elizabeth Being Native American has been part of my story since the day I was born Warren
...Dem Senatrix from Massachussetts, who traces her noble lineage all the way back to Big Chief Spouting Bull. It has been alleged that she speaks with forked tongue but she denies that. She had a DNA test to prove her lineage and it turns out she's colorless...
, D-Mass., just touch one of the third rails of American politics?

Speaking with news hounds in Iowa, the 2020 Democratic presidential candidate stated that if she becomes president, cutting off U.S. aid to Israel is a very real possibility if Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu does not stop building settlements in the West Bank.

Warren was asked if she would make U.S. aid conditional on settlement building and she was unequivocal in saying that "everything is on the table."
So quid pro quo with a side hit of threat of military action
Democrats are searching for quid pro quo, how’s that fit the bill?

"Right now Netanyahu says that he’s going to take Israel in a direction of increasing settlements," she said. "That does not move us toward a two-state solution."

"It is the official policy of the United States of America to support a two-state solution, and if Israel is moving in the opposite direction, then everything is on the table," said the hard-left progressive.

Sen. Bernie Sanders
...The only first openly Socialist member of the U.S. Senate. Sanders was Representative-for-Life from Vermont until moving to the Senate for the rest of his life in 2006, assuming the seat vacated by Jim Jeffords. He ran for the 2016 nomination for president, to be cheated out of it by Hillary Clinton, then went back to being a socialist, waiting for 2020 to roll around...
, I-Vt., has also expressed support for using U.S. aid to pressure the Israeli government.

During an interview for the popular podcast "Pod Save America," Sanders was asked if he would consider using American aid as leverage to get the Israeli government to act differently, Haaretz reported.

"Absolutely," Sanders replied in the July interview.

Another hard-left progressive candidate running for president, Sanders tied U.S. aid to Israel with Netanyahu denying entry to Reps. Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich, and Ilhan Omar
...Somali-American Dem representative from Minnesota. She is apparently married to her brother and may be her own grandmaw on her mother's side...
, D-Minn.

Omar and Tlaib, the first two Moslem women elected to Congress, have a rich history of antisemitism.

"But the idea that a member of the United States Congress cannot visit a nation which, by the way, we support to the tune of billions and billions of dollars, is clearly an outrage," Sanders said. "And if Israel doesn’t want members of the United States Congress to visit their country to get a firsthand look at what’s going on ‐ and I’ve been there many, many times ‐ but if he doesn’t want members to visit, maybe he can respectfully decline the billions of dollars that we give to Israel."

Related from June: Pete Buttigieg says US won’t ‘help foot the bill’ if Israel’s Netanyahu annexes West Bank settlements, setting himself apart from 2020 Democrats
Posted by: Fred || 10/23/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [382 views] Top|| File under:

#1  can someone cut off her oxygen supply
Posted by: chris || 10/23/2019 1:18 Comments || Top||

#2  Congress shouldn't be allowed to visit like an inspection party anywhere. The prez and foreign secretary's word should be enough for them.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 10/23/2019 3:34 Comments || Top||

#3  I think someone already did, that would explain a lot of things about her.
Posted by: Seeking Cure For Ignorance || 10/23/2019 3:34 Comments || Top||

#4  Finally!!! We were beginning to feel neglected. You work all your life to take over the World (with a little time for hobbies like inventing new suckling Palestinian baby cooking recipes). And what do you get? They only talk about Kurds, or Ukraine - "ambassador X told me that he overheard two cafeteria workers discussing Trump's pressuring Ukrainian president (Who is, by the way, a Jew - you didn't even notice that!) to admit that Joe Biden inappropriately touched the Prez's secretary." Or Pierre Delecto. Or, whatishername sharing a mistress with her husband.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/23/2019 4:00 Comments || Top||

#5  Or John Brennan - aren't you ashamed of your vulgar Islamophobia?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/23/2019 4:02 Comments || Top||

#6  About time. I hate Warren but she's not wrong here. The USA should not be giving aid of any kind to developed First World countries. That includes Europe.
Posted by: Herb McCoy || 10/23/2019 7:36 Comments || Top||

#7  can someone cut off her(bs) oxygen supply
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/23/2019 8:35 Comments || Top||

#8  She has no plan for health care.

No brain either.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/23/2019 8:37 Comments || Top||

#9  Landslide 2020
Posted by: Lex || 10/23/2019 10:07 Comments || Top||

#10  For crying-out-loud, now, she's Palestinian? Next, she will claim LBGTQ status. She's a very confused individual.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/23/2019 10:42 Comments || Top||

#11  Maybe being 1/143rd Arab has also been part of her story since birth ?
Posted by: Dron66046 || 10/23/2019 10:48 Comments || Top||

#12  #6 - our bleating fool doesn't bother to look at the numbers - last numbers (2017) - it's 80% Mil Aid (grants) which they use to defend themselves with purchases of our weapons and doing our dirty work, the rest goes to "Food for Peace (loans & grants); Export-Import Bank aid; Housing Loans; Cooperative Development aid; missile defense; and, others"

Now Herb has an obsession against defending the US abroad, so it's no surprise he especially doesn't want a US Ally (and Juices, too!) to get any
Posted by: Frank G || 10/23/2019 10:54 Comments || Top||

#13  I think Herb's loyalties might lie not with people in general, but his own academic perception of reality.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 10/23/2019 11:01 Comments || Top||

#14  Cut off military aid to Israel and the first time they feel threatened by Iran, Syria or Lebanon they will nuke the bastards. Oh well, a little radioactive fallout from the Middle East won't hurt you.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/23/2019 11:05 Comments || Top||

#15  Shitshow etc
Posted by: Lex || 10/23/2019 11:23 Comments || Top||

#16  Trump should cut off her funding and bank accounts if he is re-elected.
Posted by: DarthVader || 10/23/2019 11:56 Comments || Top||

#17  ...begin the pre-election impeachment inquiry!
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/23/2019 13:24 Comments || Top||

#18  This is really bad, because she is sooooo nuts, and her policies are sooooo contrary to mainstream, and now even corporate American fellow travelers, that the Democrat establishment, already in panic moade at what they see as the clown parade, will turn to the Obama's with offers so lucrative, they will bend and send in the Wookie. Trump should be unbeatable, but he is so worn down in the public eye with false accusations and his own intemperate responses at times that they have a fair chance of winning with the Wookie. The policies and focus on fixing and saving America first are powerful talking points for a re-eoection, but he just can't stop stupid and needless counterpunching, missing the strategic value of being a bit more even tempered.
Posted by: NoMoreBS || 10/23/2019 13:25 Comments || Top||

#19  Oprah?
Avenatti?
RuPaul?
Posted by: Lex || 10/23/2019 13:27 Comments || Top||

#20  Carlos Delecto?
Pierre Danger?
Posted by: Lex || 10/23/2019 13:28 Comments || Top||

#21  When I open my restaurant, there will be a sign outside the front door that says:

Feel free to walk in here wearing your keffiyeh, the owner is looking forward to jamming it down your throat and watching you suffocate on it.

Yes, I know it's not practical, but it's heartwarming to think about.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/23/2019 14:28 Comments || Top||



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